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Hello, I'm calling from the trip. I'd
like to confirm a call. How much money

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involved? Was it over $1 ,000?

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Was it over $10 ,000?

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Look at that mess.

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Well, thanks for the lift, Charlie.

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Yeah, you're not sore?

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No, no.

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The next time the Librarians Association
needs a guest speaker in a hurry. I'm

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busy, okay?

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Oh, come on. It wasn't as bad as all
that.

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No, not that bad.

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Come in for a drink, and I'll tell you
this great joke I heard there about the

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Dewey Decimal System.

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After I clean up the mess that jerky saw
up next door made.

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What

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was that all

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about? The door of that house is open.
Come on. Hey, wait a minute. Lou, what

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are you doing?

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Looks like something's wrong.

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And if something's wrong, we've got to
call the police.

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There may not be time. You go call my
checkerhouse.

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I'm not letting you go in there alone.
Just hold it loose.

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This may be better.

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Oh, my God. John.

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John.

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Who is it?

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It's her husband.

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I didn't know him well. Just waved to
when he was mowing the lawn or taking

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the garbage.

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What about the motorcycle rider?

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He, uh... I don't know.

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Just a guy on a motorcycle.

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He was just too fast.

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Too dark and too fast.

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Could you have seen him around here
before?

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I don't know.

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Hey, we don't need any patrol guys. Just
let me see Lieutenant McPhee. No, we

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have crowd control taken care of. Hey,
Tom, Tom, it's okay. I can call for him.

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Dave?

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No valuables taken. No forced entry.

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This fight must have made some noise.
Nobody heard it.

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Suspect escapes on a motorcycle.

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The keys are left on the bell, ain't
they? Yeah. Where do you see them? Mr.

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Grant saw the suspect leaving.

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What kind of motorcycle was it?

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Big.

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I don't know motorcycles.

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That's okay. Were there any special
markings or insignias?

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I just saw for two seconds.

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We called Mrs. Kinder's brother to come
on over.

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Maybe I could take her across to speak
to my house until he comes.

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Yeah, that'd be good. Thank you. We'll
call you if we meet you.

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Why don't you come on over to my house
now?

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I don't think so.

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The motorcycle could fit.

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How much time did you get to bed for?

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I didn't.

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I didn't sleep much either.

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Thanks.

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Thanks.

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Every time I closed my eyes, I saw that.
Do beat cuffs get involved in homicide

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investigations much?

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They might. The case is always assigned
to a detective.

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Uh -huh.

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About a half hour after you left, a
uniformed policeman came by.

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Seen him on his way around. Consulted
with a lieutenant in charge.

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That sounds kind of unusual. Was he
young, old?

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Young guy.

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Sharp. The other detectives didn't seem
pleased he was there either.

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A budding Sherlock Holmes, huh?

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Maybe the other cops were jealous of
him.

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It's not in here.

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What?

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The story of the murder.

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I missed the home edition, but I'm sure
I called it in in time for the mid

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-morning deadline.

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I gotta talk to the night guy.

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There wasn't anything special about this
murder, was there?

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Yes, there was.

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It happened 100 feet from where I sleep
every night.

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I know, something about that makes it
take on a special kind of importance.

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Yeah, really creepy.

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Charlie, it is kind of interesting. No,
it's only interesting to you. I mean,

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there are over 500 murders in Los
Angeles. I'm not talking about the

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itself. The cop, the uniformed officer
that came by.

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I'd like to know more about him.

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Well, Ross, he should be free pretty
soon.

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He spent a couple hours on it. Did you
get a name?

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Yeah, his name was Tynan.

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The supervisor in charge was Lieutenant
McPhee.

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Don't push on this, Joe.

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Give us a little time.

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What makes this case so special?

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It's not special. That's what I'm
saying.

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It's routine.

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You put a big focus on this, you're
going to slow up the process.

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I'll let you know just as soon as we got
something.

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But you brought Dave Tynan in for
consultation for special help.

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Tynan is a beat cop, not a detective.

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Wasn't that kind of unusual in itself?

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Not if you know, which you couldn't,
that Tynan was the first cop on the

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of a murder a few weeks ago in Echo
Park.

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I wanted to see if there were any
similarities.

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Were there?

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No.

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Bossy, what'd you find out?

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Tynan was murdered because of another
case he'd been on, that's all.

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Okay, then come on in like I usually
hear. I can get you the construction

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industry series ready to run on Friday.
Wait, you're still here? Yeah.

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Is that it?

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No. Stop and get a dozen eggs and a
quart of milk.

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Yes, that's it. Come in.

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Lou?

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What?

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Something is going on.

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Boss, do you want to call up and start
this conversation again? Didn't you just

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tell me you didn't get anything?

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I didn't get anything. Hard. But your
impression of Tyner was that he was

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someone special, like an expert or
something, right? Yeah, but it was late

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just found a murder victim. I don't
know.

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Yeah, well, something's weird.

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Just give me a little more time. Let me
try to find him. Just nod. Yes or no?

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Okay, but as soon as you're through, get
back here.

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I'll be there before you know it.

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Hello? A dozen eggs and a quart of whole
milk, right?

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I'm here at the gym almost every day.

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How long do you work out?

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A couple hours.

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Look, do me a favor. Put five on the
side, will you? Sure.

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Riding around in a squad car, you build
up a lot of tension.

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You're always ready for action, but most
of the time you don't do much but sit

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on your can.

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So you have to work it out somehow.

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You're in a kit in a murder case.

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Only because the whole force is on every
case. I haven't been assigned to it.

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You were called in last night.

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Give me a hand, will you?

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Yeah,

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I went over there. Lieutenant thought I
could help.

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What's so special about this case?

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The method of killing.

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Most murders are done with guns. Most of
the rest are with knives.

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This one was done with fists and blunt
objects. Pretty brutal.

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That's it?

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I don't know. What do you think is
special?

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We get plenty of cases like this.

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Well, what was the motive here?

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I don't know.

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What do you think it was?

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It's too early to tell.

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Why is everybody acting so cagey?

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And I can't get a straight answer on
this case.

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My city editor happens to live in the
neighborhood.

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Right across the street, as a matter of
fact. And I think he'd appreciate

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knowing if he could be the next target.
No, I can't say for sure.

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But I really doubt it was a random
intrusion.

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So you do know something.

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Well, you suspect something, and I have
a right to know what it is. A right?

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Yeah. You don't have any such right.

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Now, I have a right to tell you what I
want, or not to tell you.

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So, you're going to tell me?

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I don't care.

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Look, the only thing that's special
about this particular murder is that

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gay murder.

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Yeah.

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The victim, your editor's neighbor,
Maxine Kennedy.

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He was gay.

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Lou Grant will continue in a moment here
on A andE.

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A gay murder, talking about the killing
of one gay by another, can get very

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brutal. So what are you saying? Gays are
more brutal than other people?

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No, but two men are fighting.

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Two strong people.

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Uh -huh.

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Are there a lot of gay murders?

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No, they're just some backlog.

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They do stay on the books unsolved.

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Why is that case not a big priority with
the department?

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You're not quoting me on any of this.
That's right.

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Use your head.

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You know the political pressures the
department operates under.

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Assume the ready position.

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The murder of a gay doesn't get the same
attention as the murder of a straight.

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No, it's not only that.

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People who are gay can be private.

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It's hard to find witnesses.

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If you do, then it's hard to get them to
testify.

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They'd rather be silent about a crime
that's been committed than have to admit

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publicly that they were gay. And you've
had a lot of experience with this kind

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of crime.

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Well, in my division, there are gay
neighborhoods, gay hangouts. You're

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run across this way.

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You through? It's time to go.

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Time to go crush some crap.

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See you around, Larson.

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was gay?

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John Kidner was gay?

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They were this nice couple, moved in a
neighborhood pretty soon after I did.

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Late 30s, friendly.

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John Kidner was gay.

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That's what the cops are saying.

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He must have been living two lives. I'm
sure she had no idea.

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I know I had no idea.

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I guess that's why the cops wouldn't
tell us much.

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No, no, they're not real open about the
subject of gays. Not real sympathetic

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either.

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The feeling I got from Tynan was that
crimes against gays are not exactly

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highest priority in the department.

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Does that surprise you?

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Well, the amount of hostility surprised
me.

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Tynan seems really tough on gays. I
don't know how department -wide that

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is.

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Yeah. If it's just the rank and file, it
doesn't go higher.

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Lou, there's a big fire in Hollywood. I
think we ought to send somebody. The

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beach says there may be several deaths.

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Who are we here?

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Animal and Billy should be on their way
back from UCLA.

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Hey,

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Billy!

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The guy saw him off the whole thing.
Sure, I mean, that's my magic shop off

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street there. I sent in the alarm.

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When was that?

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As soon as I saw it. I mean, at first
you can't believe it. Like, is this for

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real? But I saw smoke, I saw flames.

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It went just like that, you know? People
were coming out, coughing.

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I heard some people didn't make it out.
That's what the firemen told me. A lot

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of people?

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Except for five.

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Boy. Well, he always did a business.

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It was a bar, right?

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Yeah.

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Was it just a bar or did it have a
restaurant or some kind of entertainment

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something? It was just a bar, you know.
I mean, a bar.

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What kind of bar is so crowded in the
middle of the afternoon?

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Yeah, well, you know.

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No, I don't know.

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Well, it was, uh...

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It had what you want to call a
homosexual ambience.

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It's very nice of you to come over.

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I've only been home a couple of hours.

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The first few days after it happened, I
couldn't even imagine coming back here.

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I was with my brother.

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But then I got thinking about what a
mess the house was, and I just got this

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idea I should come back and clean up.

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Oh, could I get you something? Like a
drink or something? I don't even know

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we have here.

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No, thanks. Really.

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I haven't even looked in the
refrigerator.

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I guess after four days, a lot of things
are spoiled.

249
00:14:31,420 --> 00:14:32,420
I suppose so.

250
00:14:33,060 --> 00:14:36,760
I don't know. It's funny thinking about
what's in the refrigerator.

251
00:14:37,420 --> 00:14:39,400
I mean, of course everything's still
there.

252
00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:41,080
I understand.

253
00:14:41,580 --> 00:14:45,760
I mean, you'd never think about anyone
having to clean things up when you hear

254
00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:49,360
about something like this happening to
someone. You just assume that the police

255
00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:54,660
do it or that they get someone to do it
or, I don't know, it just gets done

256
00:14:54,660 --> 00:14:55,660
somehow.

257
00:14:55,980 --> 00:15:00,140
Well, if that's not the way it works,
you clean it up yourself.

258
00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:05,200
We could always get somebody to handle
those things for you, Mrs.

259
00:15:05,460 --> 00:15:07,560
Kempner. Oh, thank you very much. That's
very nice.

260
00:15:07,780 --> 00:15:09,260
But my brother has helped.

261
00:15:09,820 --> 00:15:13,020
And if it's still my house, I'd have to
come back here eventually.

262
00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:14,480
Yeah, I guess so.

263
00:15:14,660 --> 00:15:16,840
You can't imagine the mess.

264
00:15:19,180 --> 00:15:23,880
Well, of course you can. You're here.
But, uh, I don't know, somehow in the

265
00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:25,160
daylight it's, uh...

266
00:15:27,500 --> 00:15:29,860
Anything I touch, I wonder if he touched
it.

267
00:15:31,180 --> 00:15:32,860
I mean, the man who killed you.

268
00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,240
Maybe it would be better if you didn't
stay here.

269
00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:41,940
Yeah, well, that's what my brother says,
but I can't stay with him.

270
00:15:43,500 --> 00:15:44,520
This is our house.

271
00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,860
I don't know how well you knew John.

272
00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:56,080
Oh, well, we waved at each other when he
was out mowing the lawn.

273
00:15:56,990 --> 00:15:58,210
Looked like a very nice person.

274
00:15:59,750 --> 00:16:00,750
He was.

275
00:16:03,490 --> 00:16:05,050
He's not a very happy person.

276
00:16:05,610 --> 00:16:10,070
I just wish I knew why I couldn't make
him happy.

277
00:16:11,170 --> 00:16:16,590
I mean, I just wish we could have talked
out whatever it was that was bothering

278
00:16:16,590 --> 00:16:17,590
him.

279
00:16:19,310 --> 00:16:23,370
Tell me, why aren't the police doing
anything? Why haven't they found the man

280
00:16:23,370 --> 00:16:25,310
who killed my husband? Why don't they do
more?

281
00:16:25,650 --> 00:16:26,650
I'm sure they will.

282
00:16:26,890 --> 00:16:27,890
Do you know that?

283
00:16:28,470 --> 00:16:30,050
Well, I can't swear to it.

284
00:16:30,410 --> 00:16:33,550
Do you know that I haven't heard from
them since the night it happened?

285
00:16:34,350 --> 00:16:35,350
Nobody calls.

286
00:16:36,310 --> 00:16:39,690
I mean, I don't know who should call,
the governor or the mayor.

287
00:16:40,850 --> 00:16:45,710
Oh, I know I'm not making any sense.
It's just that I don't understand it.

288
00:16:46,050 --> 00:16:49,810
Just tell me what's happening or what
they think is happening.

289
00:16:50,910 --> 00:16:52,690
Why was my husband killed?

290
00:16:53,470 --> 00:16:55,690
There's no robbery. There's no one broke
in.

291
00:16:56,750 --> 00:16:59,490
Was it a Manson thing? What was this?

292
00:17:01,810 --> 00:17:07,970
I just want something done, and I know
you can't do anything.

293
00:17:08,950 --> 00:17:15,569
Well, when a newspaper shows an interest
in a case like

294
00:17:15,569 --> 00:17:16,970
this, that's something.

295
00:17:17,510 --> 00:17:20,190
The police do have to respond to that.

296
00:17:20,550 --> 00:17:21,670
Yes, yes, sure.

297
00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:33,640
Lou Grant will continue in a moment here
on A andE.

298
00:17:38,220 --> 00:17:39,220
Okay, halftime.

299
00:17:39,540 --> 00:17:41,360
Come on, look, I want everybody to get
your oranges.

300
00:17:42,180 --> 00:17:44,880
And don't throw the peels on the ground.
Put them back in the bag. Come on, take

301
00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:45,880
off.

302
00:17:49,060 --> 00:17:50,960
No golf. Don't worry about it. Go on.

303
00:17:52,540 --> 00:17:53,540
Tough team.

304
00:17:53,660 --> 00:17:54,700
Yeah, real contended.

305
00:17:54,940 --> 00:17:56,140
The department sponsors this?

306
00:17:56,700 --> 00:17:59,100
No, I just ran across this leak through
some people at the Y.

307
00:17:59,890 --> 00:18:01,590
When I tell you he's off, I'd like to do
it.

308
00:18:01,950 --> 00:18:03,790
Look, you want an orange? We always have
tons left over.

309
00:18:04,210 --> 00:18:07,070
Thanks. All right, everybody line up for
kicking joke. Come on, take off.

310
00:18:07,910 --> 00:18:08,910
There.

311
00:18:09,670 --> 00:18:12,970
You didn't come here to watch a game.

312
00:18:13,630 --> 00:18:15,410
No, I want to know about the Kinder
case.

313
00:18:16,290 --> 00:18:18,550
I already talked to your reporter. I
told him everything we had.

314
00:18:18,810 --> 00:18:20,790
That was three days ago. What do you
have since then?

315
00:18:21,010 --> 00:18:22,010
Not much.

316
00:18:22,890 --> 00:18:24,750
Shouldn't the department be making more
progress?

317
00:18:25,570 --> 00:18:27,390
I'm a dean and the department...

318
00:18:27,690 --> 00:18:29,310
You want everything possible on this
investigation?

319
00:18:29,690 --> 00:18:30,690
Yeah, I really think they are.

320
00:18:31,790 --> 00:18:33,030
Everything but the real long shot.

321
00:18:34,370 --> 00:18:35,370
What's a long shot?

322
00:18:39,710 --> 00:18:42,450
I think I'm probably a lousy subject for
hypnotism.

323
00:18:42,990 --> 00:18:44,190
You want a beer? Sure.

324
00:18:44,510 --> 00:18:47,650
This isn't hypnotism. It's just a method
of recall developed by a psychologist.

325
00:18:47,930 --> 00:18:50,810
The department sponsored a seminar with
her for those of us who were interested.

326
00:18:51,390 --> 00:18:52,390
That'll really work.

327
00:18:52,950 --> 00:18:54,950
Yeah. You got a good look at that
motorcycle.

328
00:18:55,570 --> 00:18:56,570
Better than you think.

329
00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:58,580
And your mind recorded it.

330
00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:02,220
The idea that that information is still
in your mind somewhere. On file.

331
00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:03,600
We have to open that file.

332
00:19:05,340 --> 00:19:06,780
Look under M for motorcycle.

333
00:19:07,900 --> 00:19:08,900
Think back to that night.

334
00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:10,320
Where had you been?

335
00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:12,080
I've been trying to forget that.

336
00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:16,100
I was a pitch -hit speaker at a
convention of librarians.

337
00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:20,080
We had creamed chicken, overcooked
broccoli, and spumoni ice cream for

338
00:19:20,420 --> 00:19:21,259
Good, good.

339
00:19:21,260 --> 00:19:22,440
What time did you start to eat?

340
00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,820
What do you mean? You mean when I
started to eat? Mm -hmm.

341
00:19:26,350 --> 00:19:29,950
Come on, I can't remember that. No way.
Did you pick up the fork with your left

342
00:19:29,950 --> 00:19:30,950
hand or right?

343
00:19:32,050 --> 00:19:36,490
I guess I used my right hand. What did
you eat first?

344
00:19:36,830 --> 00:19:38,710
Oh, come on, Dave. I don't know.

345
00:19:41,190 --> 00:19:45,710
What are you doing?

346
00:19:47,110 --> 00:19:48,710
Picking up a knife to butter a roll.

347
00:19:49,050 --> 00:19:50,050
Why?

348
00:19:50,290 --> 00:19:52,470
Why I ate a roll? You didn't see the
chicken.

349
00:19:53,130 --> 00:19:54,130
I was hungry.

350
00:19:54,510 --> 00:19:55,510
Dinner was late.

351
00:19:56,620 --> 00:20:00,420
I remember some woman telling me a joke
about the Dewey Decimal System.

352
00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:05,260
And I peeked at my watch.

353
00:20:05,620 --> 00:20:06,640
What does it say?

354
00:20:07,780 --> 00:20:08,780
924.

355
00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,860
Good. So you started eating at 924
exactly.

356
00:20:15,100 --> 00:20:16,100
Yeah.

357
00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,560
Okay. What did you say to the woman?

358
00:20:19,660 --> 00:20:23,360
I... Then I'm outside the car.

359
00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:26,500
I hear this motorcycle.

360
00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:29,620
Loud. Where's the motorcycle?

361
00:20:30,380 --> 00:20:31,380
Coming toward me.

362
00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:34,560
Is the driver wearing a helmet?

363
00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,560
I have no idea. I don't know.

364
00:20:45,120 --> 00:20:46,120
Wait a minute.

365
00:20:47,580 --> 00:20:49,060
There's a headband on.

366
00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,120
I couldn't see that if he had a helmet.

367
00:20:52,580 --> 00:20:53,580
Where's he now?

368
00:20:53,980 --> 00:20:54,980
Coming at me.

369
00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:56,500
I jump out of the way.

370
00:20:57,940 --> 00:20:59,940
I feel the wind as he rushes back.

371
00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:01,480
Is he white, black, Chicano?

372
00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,260
White. And a pasty face.

373
00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:08,160
The headband.

374
00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:10,200
It's red.

375
00:21:11,220 --> 00:21:13,140
Gray. So you're watching him go?

376
00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:15,760
Yes.

377
00:21:16,380 --> 00:21:17,380
What do you see?

378
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:24,540
It has an insignia on the back.

379
00:21:26,190 --> 00:21:29,870
of the license tell me what you see the
license number

380
00:21:29,870 --> 00:21:36,810
today it's

381
00:21:36,810 --> 00:21:43,330
too dark i'm sorry it's okay go back to
the insignia i don't know what it is

382
00:21:43,330 --> 00:21:50,110
what does it look like well it uh

383
00:21:50,110 --> 00:21:52,830
for these three points

384
00:21:55,690 --> 00:21:56,690
I can draw it.

385
00:21:56,710 --> 00:21:57,710
Go ahead.

386
00:21:59,590 --> 00:22:04,990
I don't like this.

387
00:22:06,290 --> 00:22:07,770
I don't know. Not much of anything.

388
00:22:09,010 --> 00:22:09,989
Yes, it is.

389
00:22:09,990 --> 00:22:10,990
I've seen it.

390
00:22:11,510 --> 00:22:14,290
It's a coronet. It's the way they make
it in a motorcycle club called the

391
00:22:14,290 --> 00:22:15,290
Coronets.

392
00:22:18,970 --> 00:22:19,970
Motorcycle club?

393
00:22:20,110 --> 00:22:21,110
Yeah.

394
00:22:22,050 --> 00:22:23,050
Gay?

395
00:22:23,890 --> 00:22:24,890
Yeah, of course.

396
00:22:25,070 --> 00:22:26,410
Bunch of fruits that live in Eagle Rock.

397
00:22:27,670 --> 00:22:29,150
Screamers in leather jackets and chains.

398
00:22:30,390 --> 00:22:32,170
Do all cops feel like you do about gays?

399
00:22:32,930 --> 00:22:33,930
I doubt it.

400
00:22:38,810 --> 00:22:44,590
Dave, why were you called in on this
case the night of the murder?

401
00:22:45,550 --> 00:22:47,110
One of the supervisors thought I could
help.

402
00:22:47,930 --> 00:22:49,650
Because you know a lot about gay crimes.

403
00:22:50,310 --> 00:22:51,910
Yeah. About gay behavior.

404
00:22:53,190 --> 00:22:54,190
You could say that.

405
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:58,100
Look, I think we've made some progress
here. Dave, were you called in on this

406
00:22:58,100 --> 00:23:01,420
case because you have special knowledge?

407
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:04,380
Because you are gay?

408
00:23:15,420 --> 00:23:16,780
If this gets out, I'm through.

409
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,560
will continue in a moment here on A andE.

410
00:23:39,580 --> 00:23:40,580
Oh, boy.

411
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,020
The fire doesn't get the water ruins.

412
00:23:43,340 --> 00:23:45,160
Look at that cash register.

413
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:46,920
There's an antique.

414
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,920
Are you one of the owners of the bar?
Yeah, that's my bar.

415
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:52,020
I'm the major partner.

416
00:23:52,340 --> 00:23:53,340
You manage it, too?

417
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,400
Yeah, yeah. I'm here every day. I was.

418
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,320
Were you here when the fire broke out?

419
00:24:01,550 --> 00:24:04,250
Uh, but this is one of those bars where
you knew most of the customers.

420
00:24:04,550 --> 00:24:08,070
Yeah, sure, some. Sure, I had my
regulars. Could you tell me about some

421
00:24:08,070 --> 00:24:09,490
people who were caught in the fire?

422
00:24:10,390 --> 00:24:11,390
What for?

423
00:24:11,970 --> 00:24:13,370
Five people were killed here.

424
00:24:13,590 --> 00:24:15,870
Thanks. Just thanks for reminding me.

425
00:24:16,550 --> 00:24:18,450
Look, I know what you want to do.

426
00:24:18,830 --> 00:24:21,610
You just want to paint a picture of a
bunch of Nellies running around,

427
00:24:21,610 --> 00:24:22,950
all over each other, hysterical.

428
00:24:23,310 --> 00:24:27,410
No, not at all. I just want some facts
for my story. The police have not yet

429
00:24:27,410 --> 00:24:30,170
released a list of the victims, and I
was just hoping you could help me with

430
00:24:30,170 --> 00:24:31,170
that. lady.

431
00:24:31,420 --> 00:24:33,140
My doctor's got me on Valium.

432
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:35,120
I haven't eaten yet.

433
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,600
I don't need the sacrivation now.

434
00:24:37,860 --> 00:24:39,920
Look, it's just customary. You're
pushing me.

435
00:24:41,940 --> 00:24:43,720
I don't want to tell you any names.

436
00:24:45,140 --> 00:24:46,260
Those names come out.

437
00:24:47,860 --> 00:24:49,620
A lot of people could get hurt.

438
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,460
You work on a lot of bikes for a
motorcycle club called the Cornette?

439
00:25:01,390 --> 00:25:03,330
work for one boy, he tells the others.

440
00:25:03,670 --> 00:25:04,670
I do good work.

441
00:25:07,670 --> 00:25:09,730
What are the names of the coronets who
bring their bikes here?

442
00:25:11,730 --> 00:25:13,690
Isn't there some law about
confidentiality?

443
00:25:14,470 --> 00:25:16,110
Between a person and his mechanic?

444
00:25:17,530 --> 00:25:18,630
Okay, I was just asking.

445
00:25:19,250 --> 00:25:20,430
I want to do what's right.

446
00:25:24,970 --> 00:25:29,990
This boy, this guy, and this guy.

447
00:25:30,430 --> 00:25:31,430
Where do they hang out?

448
00:25:31,510 --> 00:25:32,850
I don't socialize with them.

449
00:25:33,090 --> 00:25:36,170
Danny, it's either the Brasilia or
Sundays or the White Night.

450
00:25:37,070 --> 00:25:39,710
Now, you've heard them talking. You live
in the area. Which one is it?

451
00:25:41,130 --> 00:25:45,610
Well, now that I hear you say it, Sunday
sounds familiar.

452
00:25:46,290 --> 00:25:47,290
Sunday.

453
00:25:47,830 --> 00:25:48,830
Thanks.

454
00:25:49,090 --> 00:25:51,110
Hey, these are good boys, not health
angels.

455
00:25:51,630 --> 00:25:54,410
They just like motorcycles and leather
jackets and all that stuff.

456
00:25:55,030 --> 00:25:56,170
Good interview technique.

457
00:25:56,430 --> 00:25:57,750
And that's praise from Caesar.

458
00:25:58,230 --> 00:25:59,750
Frosty, don't be so self -abasing.

459
00:26:00,270 --> 00:26:02,770
Danny wanted to talk to us. He obviously
knows the Coronets well.

460
00:26:03,050 --> 00:26:04,490
Good guys. Did you hear that?

461
00:26:04,930 --> 00:26:05,930
Good guys.

462
00:26:06,130 --> 00:26:07,130
Fags.

463
00:26:08,870 --> 00:26:10,030
Okay, Frank. Thanks.

464
00:26:11,630 --> 00:26:13,250
Oh, sure. Next time I'm in the area.

465
00:26:13,710 --> 00:26:14,710
Yeah, buh -bye.

466
00:26:18,570 --> 00:26:22,110
Your friend down at the morgue just
invited me to stop by for coffee.

467
00:26:22,490 --> 00:26:23,750
Yuck. Yeah, I know.

468
00:26:24,030 --> 00:26:25,430
Coffee down there is always cold.

469
00:26:29,360 --> 00:26:31,640
Well, I finally got a list of the
victims of the bar fire.

470
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:33,040
Let's see.

471
00:26:33,700 --> 00:26:34,860
This guy was a minister.

472
00:26:35,220 --> 00:26:39,140
This guy was a captain in the army. And
this was a lawyer.

473
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:41,200
Regis.

474
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:43,780
Why does that sound familiar?

475
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,240
Gary Michael Regis, son of Jordan Regis,
the big philanthropist.

476
00:26:49,380 --> 00:26:51,720
Interesting. Mick, sounds like a classy
play.

477
00:26:52,380 --> 00:26:53,380
Maybe.

478
00:26:54,020 --> 00:26:55,020
Wait a minute.

479
00:26:55,420 --> 00:26:57,360
Isn't this in Hollywood in a rundown
section?

480
00:26:57,820 --> 00:26:58,820
Yeah.

481
00:26:59,340 --> 00:27:00,520
It was also gay.

482
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:12,060
I hate it. I hate it. I hate it. Print
this list and you brand every one of

483
00:27:12,060 --> 00:27:13,060
these men as homosexual.

484
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,920
We've never failed to print a list of
victims in a case like this. Yes, Mr.

485
00:27:17,100 --> 00:27:18,540
Grant. That's why I hate it.

486
00:27:18,780 --> 00:27:23,120
Now, what are we going to do? If we
print the names, we'd just be printing

487
00:27:23,120 --> 00:27:24,120
facts.

488
00:27:25,900 --> 00:27:27,400
A bar burned down.

489
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,320
These men died in the fire.

490
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:31,920
We're not telling people what to think.

491
00:27:32,180 --> 00:27:34,600
No, but we know exactly what they will
think.

492
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:39,600
It was a gay bar, Mr. Grant, and
everyone is going to assume those men

493
00:27:40,140 --> 00:27:41,320
That's a fair assumption.

494
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,280
If there's a fire at a basketball game,
everyone would assume that the victims

495
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:46,420
were basketball fans.

496
00:27:46,860 --> 00:27:51,000
There's not exactly a social stigma
attached to liking basketball.

497
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:52,400
Come on.

498
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,360
We'd be labeling these dead men as gay.

499
00:27:55,950 --> 00:27:57,690
And they couldn't answer the charge.

500
00:27:58,050 --> 00:27:58,889
Of course.

501
00:27:58,890 --> 00:28:02,890
All these men had family and friends
that could be hurt by this disclosure.

502
00:28:03,630 --> 00:28:07,130
But how can a newspaper not print the
truth just because the truth is painful?

503
00:28:07,290 --> 00:28:11,670
Come on, come on, come on. Don't throw
truth at us. I could think of a lot of

504
00:28:11,670 --> 00:28:16,570
reasons why someone can go into that bar
and none of those reasons have anything

505
00:28:16,570 --> 00:28:19,110
to do with his sexual preference.

506
00:28:23,490 --> 00:28:24,850
I hate this.

507
00:28:28,490 --> 00:28:33,170
If this were a fire that cost five lives
in any other business, we wouldn't

508
00:28:33,170 --> 00:28:35,010
think twice about printing it.

509
00:28:35,790 --> 00:28:39,350
These men made a choice, and that choice
carried with it a certain risk, and

510
00:28:39,350 --> 00:28:40,350
they knew that risk.

511
00:28:40,510 --> 00:28:44,470
I'm really sorry it happened this way,
but we've still got a responsibility.

512
00:28:45,470 --> 00:28:49,290
If the newspaper doesn't print the names
this time, how can the public know that

513
00:28:49,290 --> 00:28:51,390
we're not withholding other information
from them in the future?

514
00:28:53,070 --> 00:28:54,070
They can't.

515
00:28:54,790 --> 00:28:56,330
So we run the list.

516
00:28:59,500 --> 00:29:00,500
I'm afraid so.

517
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:12,160
Hey, Dave, how's it going?

518
00:29:12,580 --> 00:29:14,740
Just thought I'd let you know I think
we're getting somewhere in the Kinder

519
00:29:14,740 --> 00:29:15,920
murder. Oh, that's good.

520
00:29:16,420 --> 00:29:17,420
You were a real help.

521
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:19,480
We may have a lead on a suspect.

522
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,220
Great. Hey, look, I was just finishing
up. Let me buy you a drink.

523
00:29:24,820 --> 00:29:26,280
I'd like to. I'm going to take a rain
check.

524
00:29:27,100 --> 00:29:28,120
Anyway, thanks for your help.

525
00:29:28,430 --> 00:29:29,430
Don't be silly.

526
00:29:33,610 --> 00:29:40,390
Look, Wu, what we talked about the other
day, about my personal life, you

527
00:29:40,390 --> 00:29:41,390
haven't mentioned it to anybody.

528
00:29:41,630 --> 00:29:42,670
No, of course not.

529
00:29:43,410 --> 00:29:44,410
Good.

530
00:29:46,070 --> 00:29:48,850
Because I wanted you to know that it
isn't just that the department can't

531
00:29:49,630 --> 00:29:50,630
Nobody can know.

532
00:29:51,090 --> 00:29:52,690
Because it could get back in the
department.

533
00:29:53,130 --> 00:29:54,130
I understand.

534
00:29:54,550 --> 00:29:55,550
Don't worry.

535
00:29:55,850 --> 00:29:56,850
Okay.

536
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:58,320
I figured you'd understand.

537
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,340
Do you have to do this every time
someone finds out?

538
00:30:03,500 --> 00:30:05,120
Come after them? Double check?

539
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:09,360
People don't find out.

540
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,580
Almost never. I had to tell Lieutenant
McPhee once.

541
00:30:15,580 --> 00:30:16,620
So far, he's been cool.

542
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:22,180
Well, if McPhee's been okay about it...
Believe me, I know cops, Lou.

543
00:30:23,260 --> 00:30:24,260
I know people.

544
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:26,820
I don't want this coming out.

545
00:30:30,620 --> 00:30:32,420
I hate the lying more than you can
imagine.

546
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,820
Sometimes I just want to tell the people
I work with. Just say it.

547
00:30:43,340 --> 00:30:47,100
Maybe that time will... No, look, just
don't tell anyone.

548
00:30:47,460 --> 00:30:48,460
Who am I going to tell?

549
00:30:48,580 --> 00:30:49,580
Whoever, please.

550
00:30:51,260 --> 00:30:52,260
I won't.

551
00:30:53,300 --> 00:30:54,300
Okay.

552
00:31:09,550 --> 00:31:12,250
I didn't know Kinder that well. Tony, we
know Kinder was gay.

553
00:31:12,510 --> 00:31:13,530
What's that got to do with me?

554
00:31:13,750 --> 00:31:16,850
Don't play games, Tony. We know you're
gay, too. No, what's that supposed to

555
00:31:16,850 --> 00:31:19,390
mean? You know, just because a guy is
gay doesn't mean he's a murderer. You

556
00:31:19,390 --> 00:31:20,710
know, I got my right to run... Hey,
Tony.

557
00:31:21,050 --> 00:31:22,050
Ease up, huh?

558
00:31:22,130 --> 00:31:24,750
Look, we know about you and Kinder. We
just want to hear what you can tell us.

559
00:31:25,070 --> 00:31:26,450
What do you know? You don't know
anything.

560
00:31:37,610 --> 00:31:38,610
All right, Ace.

561
00:31:38,620 --> 00:31:41,560
slept with Kintner the night of the
murder, but it was the first time.

562
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,740
I don't want to be shocked, Tony. I'm
telling you what it was.

563
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:45,760
We were told Kintner was having a longer
affair.

564
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,520
Well, it was with somebody else. Who
else?

565
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,340
Look, Tony, you're looking at an
accessory rack.

566
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,400
You're looking at a court case and a
trial.

567
00:31:54,900 --> 00:31:56,300
You're looking at a lot of publicity.

568
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:00,159
What's there?

569
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:01,160
What? Come on, what?

570
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:02,680
Russ Barrow.

571
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:04,760
Okay, where do we find Russ Barrow?

572
00:32:05,300 --> 00:32:06,300
I don't know.

573
00:32:06,980 --> 00:32:07,980
Tony.

574
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:13,000
Unless it's over at the Sixers. It's a
bar in Silver Lake.

575
00:32:21,900 --> 00:32:24,360
We talked to a mechanic who put us on at
his bar.

576
00:32:24,620 --> 00:32:26,560
From there, we got to John Kintner's
lover.

577
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:27,800
One of them.

578
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,680
We pushed him pretty hard, and he came
up with the name of the suspect.

579
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:32,160
We, Rossi?

580
00:32:32,740 --> 00:32:33,840
We got a suspect?

581
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,360
Just a manner of speaking.

582
00:32:36,740 --> 00:32:37,740
Oh, I see.

583
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:39,080
What's happening now?

584
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:40,940
We're about to take a code seven.

585
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,400
Rossi, why don't we come in and do some
writing?

586
00:32:44,660 --> 00:32:46,740
Or did you want to hand out some traffic
tickets, too?

587
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,880
So, are we bringing McPhena?

588
00:32:52,980 --> 00:32:54,720
Why, it's our bus. We're doing the work.

589
00:32:55,060 --> 00:32:56,440
If it's his case, we got something.

590
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:57,880
We don't know what we have.

591
00:32:58,420 --> 00:33:00,700
Look, let's run it up one more step
before we get McPhena.

592
00:33:01,380 --> 00:33:02,380
Okay, by me?

593
00:33:03,380 --> 00:33:05,300
You really sleuthed this one out.

594
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:08,040
We got lucky.

595
00:33:10,460 --> 00:33:12,240
I wouldn't call it luck. You knew just
where to go.

596
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,960
Instinct. I've been a cop longer than
you. I don't have that instinct.

597
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,260
Some's got it and some ain't.

598
00:33:21,500 --> 00:33:24,040
Stick with me, son. You may pick up a
few pointers.

599
00:33:26,500 --> 00:33:28,000
It's code seven time. Where are we going
to eat?

600
00:33:29,540 --> 00:33:31,440
We haven't done Mexican yet.

601
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:33,020
What is it with you cops?

602
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,420
City full of great restaurants, and all
you do is eat at taco stands and

603
00:33:37,420 --> 00:33:38,880
hamburger joints and donut shops.

604
00:33:39,100 --> 00:33:40,220
So where are we going, Scandia?

605
00:33:40,940 --> 00:33:42,920
No, actually, I'm in the mood for a good
burrito.

606
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,120
Oh, would you look at that.

607
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:54,440
California living.

608
00:33:55,460 --> 00:33:57,080
The vitamins they all take out here.

609
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:58,600
What do you think, dancer?

610
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:00,920
Hmm, do it.

611
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,240
Now, violates FAA rules.

612
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,540
Turn sideways is unbalanced as plain.

613
00:34:09,159 --> 00:34:10,320
Oh, I'm in love.

614
00:34:11,460 --> 00:34:12,860
I'll take her for my code seven.

615
00:34:17,500 --> 00:34:19,100
Not too bad. Not my type.

616
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:22,820
I don't know what your type is.

617
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,300
Oh, you haven't met Jennifer yet, have
you?

618
00:34:25,900 --> 00:34:29,000
Look, next time she's in town, we'll all
go out for a movie or something.

619
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,600
Or I'll call and she'll be called away
on business.

620
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,219
We're really sorry about that. The kid's
ambitious.

621
00:34:35,659 --> 00:34:37,080
I keep telling her to slow down.

622
00:34:38,699 --> 00:34:39,920
Is that what you tell her?

623
00:34:42,380 --> 00:34:43,380
Yeah.

624
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:48,480
Was that your type?

625
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:51,199
That one there, the brunette.

626
00:34:51,780 --> 00:34:53,139
Are none of these girls your type?

627
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:56,600
On this block?

628
00:34:57,620 --> 00:34:58,620
This city.

629
00:35:00,460 --> 00:35:01,460
This world.

630
00:35:04,900 --> 00:35:06,780
You just not go for girls at all.

631
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,600
Lou Grant will continue in a moment.

632
00:35:28,910 --> 00:35:29,910
Year on A andE.

633
00:35:32,490 --> 00:35:33,490
Hi, Bob. Where's Dave?

634
00:35:34,650 --> 00:35:35,730
I haven't seen him today.

635
00:35:36,450 --> 00:35:37,830
Where were we meeting him? Back at the
division?

636
00:35:38,810 --> 00:35:41,110
Should be there. What do you think your
transfer came through?

637
00:35:43,410 --> 00:35:44,410
I don't know.

638
00:35:44,890 --> 00:35:47,510
Why the transfer? From what I saw, you
two were a pretty good team.

639
00:35:48,630 --> 00:35:49,630
It's time for a change.

640
00:35:49,930 --> 00:35:50,930
Why?

641
00:35:51,650 --> 00:35:52,650
Things have changed.

642
00:35:53,030 --> 00:35:54,030
What? What's changed?

643
00:35:55,210 --> 00:35:56,210
Personal.

644
00:35:57,919 --> 00:35:59,820
Yeah, well, I've known a lot of cops.

645
00:36:00,220 --> 00:36:02,760
Importants don't usually break up when
they're closing out on a bust.

646
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:04,280
Doesn't have anything to do with that.

647
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:06,300
And what are we talking about here?

648
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,040
We're not talking about anything.

649
00:36:12,420 --> 00:36:14,720
You know, you're acting a little weird.

650
00:36:18,100 --> 00:36:21,880
Do you know what it's like to be let
down by someone you thought you could

651
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:22,880
trust?

652
00:36:23,140 --> 00:36:24,260
Trying to let you down? What did he do?

653
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:26,960
He didn't do anything.

654
00:36:28,490 --> 00:36:30,750
Well, is he not working on a case?

655
00:36:31,550 --> 00:36:32,550
Sure he is.

656
00:36:32,630 --> 00:36:33,630
Then what is it?

657
00:36:35,490 --> 00:36:39,070
Look, Rossi, you saw the same things I
saw. Tynan's called in as a consultant

658
00:36:39,070 --> 00:36:40,070
this fag murder case.

659
00:36:40,330 --> 00:36:43,810
He's got all this fag special knowledge.
He's a single guy, never dates girls.

660
00:36:43,870 --> 00:36:44,870
What, I have to draw you a picture?

661
00:36:46,950 --> 00:36:50,470
I'm not sure the things you listed can
really justify your suspicions.

662
00:36:51,550 --> 00:36:52,970
They aren't just suspicions.

663
00:36:53,690 --> 00:36:54,690
I see.

664
00:36:56,590 --> 00:36:57,590
Who else knows?

665
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,440
I figure McPhee must know something, but
he isn't going to be telling anyone.

666
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:03,360
And you?

667
00:37:04,020 --> 00:37:06,200
Look, it just happened to me. I don't
know.

668
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,200
Well, what do you mean it happened to
you?

669
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,280
Look, I love this police force.

670
00:37:13,240 --> 00:37:14,860
I don't think you can understand that.

671
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,560
But I got a wife and kids.

672
00:37:18,300 --> 00:37:22,400
I got friends who respect me, who
respect cops, who respect the force.

673
00:37:23,220 --> 00:37:26,680
How am I going to tell them that the cop
I work with is gay?

674
00:37:27,450 --> 00:37:30,650
Don't you think they deserve better than
that? I think they deserve good cops.

675
00:37:32,770 --> 00:37:35,310
I've dealt with a lot of gays since I've
been in law enforcement.

676
00:37:36,290 --> 00:37:39,010
Now, Rossi, let me tell you, they're
emotionally unstable people.

677
00:37:39,230 --> 00:37:43,030
I don't care if they go off and do
whatever it is they do, but they can't

678
00:37:43,030 --> 00:37:47,230
cops. Now, how does a cop know he can
count on his partner in a crisis if he's

679
00:37:47,230 --> 00:37:48,410
homosexual?

680
00:37:51,610 --> 00:37:53,950
Dave Tannen seems like a pretty reliable
guy to me.

681
00:37:56,620 --> 00:37:58,920
And you don't have to depend on them to
protect your life.

682
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:05,540
Another coffee, please.

683
00:38:08,700 --> 00:38:11,720
I love being a cop, Lou.

684
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,100
The greatest satisfaction I have is
doing good police work.

685
00:38:16,420 --> 00:38:17,480
And your private life?

686
00:38:18,340 --> 00:38:19,380
What private life?

687
00:38:20,060 --> 00:38:21,060
Mostly I'm a monk.

688
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,920
I don't see people romantically, so I
avoid the issue.

689
00:38:24,660 --> 00:38:25,740
Great solution, huh?

690
00:38:28,410 --> 00:38:31,730
No. Of course, when I do see people, I
avoid a long -term relationship because

691
00:38:31,730 --> 00:38:32,730
I'd have to lie.

692
00:38:33,570 --> 00:38:35,930
Because I got to know someone, he got to
know me.

693
00:38:36,650 --> 00:38:38,530
I couldn't keep up that lie. I wouldn't
want to.

694
00:38:40,430 --> 00:38:42,910
And then, uh... What?

695
00:38:45,170 --> 00:38:46,750
I couldn't tell a lover I was a cop.

696
00:38:47,810 --> 00:38:50,670
What if somewhere down the line we had a
falling out, and he got sore and

697
00:38:50,670 --> 00:38:52,830
decided to call the department and say,
Hey, guys, guess what?

698
00:38:53,390 --> 00:38:57,310
But if a married man has a mistress and
she calls his employer... Do you really

699
00:38:57,310 --> 00:38:58,310
think his behalf is bad?

700
00:39:04,150 --> 00:39:06,150
Look, Will, let me tell you something
about cops.

701
00:39:07,410 --> 00:39:09,150
I once busted a guy for drunk driving.

702
00:39:09,690 --> 00:39:12,690
It turns out he owned a pizza joint
where guys on the force used to go get

703
00:39:12,690 --> 00:39:13,690
pizza.

704
00:39:14,110 --> 00:39:16,930
So my sergeant and the other guys wanted
me to fix the breath test for their

705
00:39:16,930 --> 00:39:19,710
buddy. I said, no, I made a good bust
and I won't change it.

706
00:39:21,550 --> 00:39:24,650
So the next day I got into a very
intense crowd control situation and I

707
00:39:24,650 --> 00:39:25,650
for backup.

708
00:39:26,310 --> 00:39:27,330
I never got it.

709
00:39:28,670 --> 00:39:29,670
I could have been killed.

710
00:39:31,790 --> 00:39:34,550
So just how much backup do you think I
could get if all of the other officers

711
00:39:34,550 --> 00:39:35,550
knew I was gay?

712
00:39:36,790 --> 00:39:41,230
Are you going to tell me that today the
cops... Look, Lou, today cops hate gays

713
00:39:41,230 --> 00:39:43,910
and gays hate cops and the public isn't
crazy about cops or gays.

714
00:39:47,370 --> 00:39:48,770
You know, I asked you not to tell
anyone.

715
00:39:49,410 --> 00:39:50,410
I didn't.

716
00:39:52,650 --> 00:39:53,650
I did.

717
00:39:54,150 --> 00:39:55,150
Who?

718
00:39:55,690 --> 00:39:56,690
My partner.

719
00:39:58,750 --> 00:39:59,750
Well?

720
00:40:00,250 --> 00:40:01,250
I don't know.

721
00:40:04,370 --> 00:40:07,730
Dave, you've just got to remember that
you're as good a cop as he is.

722
00:40:07,970 --> 00:40:09,170
I'm a better cop than he is.

723
00:40:10,410 --> 00:40:12,590
I'm as good or better than any officer
on the force.

724
00:40:13,970 --> 00:40:14,990
Someday they're going to know it.

725
00:40:15,710 --> 00:40:16,710
What does that mean?

726
00:40:18,230 --> 00:40:19,230
That's what I said.

727
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,640
Right now all you should be worrying
about is taking care of yourself.

728
00:40:24,180 --> 00:40:25,360
Just do your job.

729
00:40:26,020 --> 00:40:27,020
Right.

730
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:01,420
Have Sparrow been around lately?

731
00:41:21,130 --> 00:41:26,130
15 in pursuit of a 187 suspect driving a
white motorcycle northbound on Udell

732
00:41:26,130 --> 00:41:27,130
from Hyperia.

733
00:41:27,290 --> 00:41:29,630
I'm on the right. Watch across me. Blue
car left.

734
00:41:34,850 --> 00:41:38,230
We'll either catch him or kill himself,
one or the other. Don't put too much

735
00:41:38,230 --> 00:41:41,550
now. We're going to get back up. If I
get close enough, I think I might be

736
00:41:41,550 --> 00:41:42,550
to tap him.

737
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:09,080
You're gay.

738
00:42:11,500 --> 00:42:13,480
This guy is good on the bike.

739
00:42:13,700 --> 00:42:15,960
He may try that alley. Look out. Now
wait. Watch for him.

740
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:17,920
Okay.

741
00:43:54,030 --> 00:43:55,030
How you doing?

742
00:43:55,730 --> 00:43:58,510
You know how they tell you to be in too
much shock to feel the pain?

743
00:43:58,730 --> 00:44:00,110
Yeah. It's not true.

744
00:44:03,790 --> 00:44:04,790
I'm sorry.

745
00:44:05,850 --> 00:44:06,850
Don't worry about it.

746
00:44:06,890 --> 00:44:09,690
You've been with me long enough to know
that I'm not the kind of a guy who

747
00:44:09,690 --> 00:44:10,870
thinks he's wrong very often.

748
00:44:13,190 --> 00:44:18,150
What I want to say is... I was wrong.

749
00:44:21,170 --> 00:44:22,170
It's okay.

750
00:44:22,490 --> 00:44:23,650
Must have been kind of rough for you.

751
00:44:24,450 --> 00:44:30,710
Kind of. But look, if I can learn, a guy
like me, those other guys... No.

752
00:44:31,190 --> 00:44:33,970
Oh, hey, Dave, really, Nick, it doesn't
have to be like this.

753
00:44:35,110 --> 00:44:37,470
Those guys I'll understand, most of
them, anyhow.

754
00:44:37,730 --> 00:44:39,250
No. I'll back you up.

755
00:44:40,330 --> 00:44:41,930
I'll take them on if I have to.

756
00:44:42,470 --> 00:44:44,150
It's you and me. You don't understand.

757
00:44:45,210 --> 00:44:46,210
Just lay off it.

758
00:44:46,790 --> 00:44:47,790
Don't say anything.

759
00:44:48,570 --> 00:44:49,570
You don't understand.

760
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:01,840
Why'd you have to shoot that?

761
00:45:02,660 --> 00:45:03,660
I've been reading it.

762
00:45:03,940 --> 00:45:04,940
How's Tynan?

763
00:45:05,020 --> 00:45:07,680
I just checked with the hospital. He's
out of surgery and stable.

764
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:09,080
That's good.

765
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:14,960
Listen, there's something I didn't put
in the piece, because I'm not sure it's

766
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:20,960
part of the story. It's about... It's a
human angle, about Tynan's personal

767
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:21,960
life.

768
00:45:22,340 --> 00:45:23,880
Yeah, I know.

769
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:25,920
You do?

770
00:45:26,100 --> 00:45:27,100
Yeah.

771
00:45:29,740 --> 00:45:33,520
i think you're right i don't think it
belongs in the story we'll run it like

772
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:34,520
this

773
00:45:51,690 --> 00:45:54,610
He was a real cowboy and a romantic cult
hero.

774
00:45:55,010 --> 00:45:59,630
Relive the legendary tales of Butch
Cassidy on an all -new biography

775
00:45:59,990 --> 00:46:05,410
Now, murder suspects try to cover their
tracks as cops get closer on Police

776
00:46:05,410 --> 00:46:07,310
Story, tonight on AMA.

